This blog was originally used as a backup to the feed function that "used" to be on Twitch, it is now the primary means of a "feed" for my channel since that function was removed in 2018. This later started including updates for my YouTube channel in 2021 when Bing decided to blacklist my personal site & this blog from their search engine results.
Wednesday, June 26, 2019
Subscriber bonus point changes (take 2)
Patreon subscriber bonus point changes
Patreon subscriber benefits will remain the same as stated in the last blog entry, these are not changing, however the revenue gain from a gift sub when requested could potentially give you back some of the points from a requested gift sub after I have a value of calculated revenue from Twitch on that gift sub.Monday, June 24, 2019
Subscription bonus changes
Twitch subscription point bonuses
In the month of May, there was an individual that chose to
subscribe to the channel, then apparently reversed the charge after the sub was
already made, resulting in the removal of that revenue. Twitch was contacted
regarding this, however they chose not to respond to the ticket that was opened
regarding it. The individual was banned
after that, not for reversing the charge, but for having temporary access to
the subscriber-only section, which couldn't technically be revoked after they
already had access to it (this section has a bunch of game freebies listed,
something they shouldn't have had access to if they weren't intending on actually
subscribing).
Over a month later I was re-watching the Ring_of_Favor mockery stream & realizing that with the follow-up situation with iBreezyy (now
Breezops), which are the main individuals that ultimately got that list from being
pulled as being public, that Twitch probably wasn't responding due to the continuous
reports being filed against my account & the publications that have been
continued to be published & updated over continuous ignored violations
committed by these individuals, I decided to respond to the auto-reply that I
got from Twitch when I initially opened the ticket regarding the subscription
"not fully registering" with the following response on 6/17/2019:
I no longer need a response to this support ticket. I was giving it a chance to be looked at before I decided to take matters into my own hands, but seeing as I received no response to the ticket, the individual was banned & blocked for the reason of "subscription reversal", not because of the fact that it was reversed, but because he had temporary access to a subscriber-only perk (Free Games list via the subscriber-only section of the channel) that could not be revoked once he already had access to it. If he had enough points to deduct the reversed subscription, I would have deducted the points to cover the reversal, however seeing as he was new to the channel & didn't even get the point bonus from the subscription itself, he was banned instead due to it being apparent that I wasn't going to get a response to this ticket within the time period that they had access to those perks.
This response didn't receive a reply either, however I
noticed after my stream running through June 23rd-24th that even after getting
a new sub to the channel, my calculated Revenue with Twitch actually dropped
(dropping from $53.30 over several months to $51.76 AFTER the new
subscription should have been calculated into the total (this means that
$3.66 got lost somewhere & I noticed a drop in the rate of funds that I gain from paid subscripitions.
Because it appears I'm getting docked for some reason on
Twitch's side, it's been decided that giving a flat rate bonus is no longer
going to be a 500 points bonus on tier 1 subscriptions, how I am going to be
implying a x5 multiplayer on points for subscribers (this means that you gain 1
point every minute watching, as apposed to 1 point every 5 minutes for
non-subscribers). Tier 2 & 3 subscribers will still get increased bonuses above
tier 1, but seeing as I can't increase the point multiplayer based on tier,
this will be additional points depending on the tier (similar to what was there
before, just without the multiplier).
Patreon subscriptions + gift sub requests
I've been tossing around the idea of giving gift
subscriptions on Twitch to subscribers over Patreon & as of yet, have not
done anything official, however I believe I may have come up with an idea. Nothing will be changing with the existing
benefits, but sooner or later I'm going to be putting some additional tiers on
Patreon that allow gift subscriptions on request, but for right now, those this
is what the plan is:
- Patreon subs of $10 or more per month can request a tier 1 gift sub in exchange for 500 points off of their point total on the channel (a $10 sub would get you 1000 points for the month).
- Patreon subs of $15 or more per month can request a tier 2 gift sub in exchange for 1000 points off of their point total on the channel (a $15 sub would get you 1500 points for the month).
- Patreon subs of $30 or more per month can request a tier 3 gift sub in exchange for 2500 points off of their point total on the channel (a $30 sub would get you 3000 points for the month).
Despite the fact that these tiers are not official yet, I am
still going to honor these terms, you just need to request it within the month
that you paid into Patreon. Note
however that if the charge is reversed after a gift sub is issued, this is
terms for an immediate ban from the channel & block on Twitch, no questions
asked & no chance of it being removed; gift sub requests will be removed in
the future if there are continuous problems with this & the additional
tiers will be removed.
Monday, June 17, 2019
Streamers & viewer acknowledgement, how important is it?
When it comes to streaming, acknowledgement of your viewers in chat is important to keep those viewers, gain followers & eventually income through tips, subscriptions or cheers (otherwise known as bits); if you aren't willing to acknowledge your viewers, then there's really no reason in being in your own chat. I for one have a habit of throwing hosts to the channels I am viewing, but that doesn't last long when it's pretty clear that everything you are saying in chat is being ignored & there's literally no acknowledgement you're even there, so these aren't channels I tend to stick around in & will eventually unfollow & never go back to them with enough repetition.
Am I saying that everything you say needs to responded to? No. I personally am too talkative & don't expect everything to be responded to, but I don't appreciate being fully ignored either, it's one of the things that drives me off from being a viewer, if not a supporter of a channel in one way or another. Yesterday I threw a host to somebody & noticed they weren't even acknowledging the host or any of the comments in chat, I eventually decided to throw a host on somebody else (later just turning off auto-hosting until after my own stream). Today it was the same situation with that chat, however I waited to see if I would get a response to what was being said in chat before throwing the host, I didn't start getting responses until I stated something to see if anybody could actually see what I was saying. Of course things got tense after that, not only from the streamer, but also from the other viewers; I debated whether I would just leave & come back at another time to see if anything had changed, ultimately it was decided that because another viewer decided to jump in on the hostility, that I wasn't going to be going back to that channel & removed my follow of over 8 months.
The particular streamer has been AFK-streaming Stream Raiders anyways (something I'm pretty certain he's going to get his Twitch channel penalized over sooner or later), one of the reasons I removed him from my auto-host list some time ago, but I still kept going back if only to support by giving them viewers & the occasional host when they actually were on, but I didn't particularly feel like giving that support when it turned into a full deadzone on replies (not even acknowledgement of promotion of their channels through hosts), so I eventually just decided I was done with it & I'm not currently intending on going back to their channel.
As far as I'm concerned, I will continue following channels for the individual streaming, not specifically what they are streaming (however I will restrict hosts if they are playing games from companies that I am boycotting for various reasons) & a lot of the channels I've been following have changed games & don't have the viewers or revenue coming in that they used to have, so loyalty to a channel based on the streamer (not the game) is a rarity that a lot of streamers don't have. In my particular situation, I've been streaming primarily Fortnite (Save the World) lately, but I always notice follower drops when I choose to stream another game, that's a pretty clear indication of people that only follow for the game, not the streamer (which is one of the reasons I don't cry about the loss of those viewers/followers). One of the main things that gets me to follow a channel & eventually host or auto-host them is based on how I am treated when I start viewing a channel (of course past situations have made me more cautious in how quickly I will do so, so it may take a few visits before I'll take that additional step), so it shouldn't be any surprise I'll unfollow a channel if things are getting ugly while I'm in there.
Long story short, a streamer may be still be able to be successful if not replying to their viewers, but those that choose not to are cutting out a good portion of supporters (by hosting, auto-hosting, following, tipping, cheering, subscribing or simply viewing while not being in invisible mode) that would at least like some acknowledgement that they are there, rather than being completely ignored when they may have something that is relevant to a question the streamer may have asked their viewers.
Am I saying that everything you say needs to responded to? No. I personally am too talkative & don't expect everything to be responded to, but I don't appreciate being fully ignored either, it's one of the things that drives me off from being a viewer, if not a supporter of a channel in one way or another. Yesterday I threw a host to somebody & noticed they weren't even acknowledging the host or any of the comments in chat, I eventually decided to throw a host on somebody else (later just turning off auto-hosting until after my own stream). Today it was the same situation with that chat, however I waited to see if I would get a response to what was being said in chat before throwing the host, I didn't start getting responses until I stated something to see if anybody could actually see what I was saying. Of course things got tense after that, not only from the streamer, but also from the other viewers; I debated whether I would just leave & come back at another time to see if anything had changed, ultimately it was decided that because another viewer decided to jump in on the hostility, that I wasn't going to be going back to that channel & removed my follow of over 8 months.
The particular streamer has been AFK-streaming Stream Raiders anyways (something I'm pretty certain he's going to get his Twitch channel penalized over sooner or later), one of the reasons I removed him from my auto-host list some time ago, but I still kept going back if only to support by giving them viewers & the occasional host when they actually were on, but I didn't particularly feel like giving that support when it turned into a full deadzone on replies (not even acknowledgement of promotion of their channels through hosts), so I eventually just decided I was done with it & I'm not currently intending on going back to their channel.
As far as I'm concerned, I will continue following channels for the individual streaming, not specifically what they are streaming (however I will restrict hosts if they are playing games from companies that I am boycotting for various reasons) & a lot of the channels I've been following have changed games & don't have the viewers or revenue coming in that they used to have, so loyalty to a channel based on the streamer (not the game) is a rarity that a lot of streamers don't have. In my particular situation, I've been streaming primarily Fortnite (Save the World) lately, but I always notice follower drops when I choose to stream another game, that's a pretty clear indication of people that only follow for the game, not the streamer (which is one of the reasons I don't cry about the loss of those viewers/followers). One of the main things that gets me to follow a channel & eventually host or auto-host them is based on how I am treated when I start viewing a channel (of course past situations have made me more cautious in how quickly I will do so, so it may take a few visits before I'll take that additional step), so it shouldn't be any surprise I'll unfollow a channel if things are getting ugly while I'm in there.
Long story short, a streamer may be still be able to be successful if not replying to their viewers, but those that choose not to are cutting out a good portion of supporters (by hosting, auto-hosting, following, tipping, cheering, subscribing or simply viewing while not being in invisible mode) that would at least like some acknowledgement that they are there, rather than being completely ignored when they may have something that is relevant to a question the streamer may have asked their viewers.
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